international level? >> yes, and it's a pity, you know, as you know, one of the saddest and most unfortunate western policies of the last 30 years, which may have had some logical sense 20, 30 years ago, but makes no sense today, is the western policy of weakening multilateral organizations. i argue very strongly in this book that actually now is the time for the west to change course. and i begin, as you know, by quoting bill clinton in a speech he gave in yale in 2003 where he said america assumes it will be number one forever. please continue doing whatever you're doing, it doesn't matter because you'll be number one forever. but if you can conceive of the possibility of becoming number two, surely, it is in america's interest to create a world space order that will then constrain the next number one. that's very wise of bill clinton to say that.